Just One Question…

July 22nd, 2008

Al Rae, you’ve been very polite on my site and I really haven’t engaged you other than to say I suspect we will always disagree. Your recent post on gay & lesbian rights will no doubt applause from your choir because they share your general worldview and “progressive” vision of “equality.” To me, I see the same old ideas, scare scenarios and what have you that inspired Androphilia in the first place, so I’m not going to waste my time getting into a circular debate, nit picking about the same old issues. (People always assume I’ve never heard the “good word” from the LGBT gender studies evangelists, and mistake ideological disagreement for uninformed savagery.)

I would like to draw attention, however, to the tone of that post and the insults directed at me personally.

Not because I want a fake apology or because I’m crying myself to sleep every night. I’m not GLAAD; I don’t require or value coerced, staged apologies. I knew exactly what to expect when I published my book, and if anything, I was braced for far nastier tirades. Any man, especially a homosexual man, who speaks positively about masculinity will have his own manhood mocked and picked apart by those who believe that any masculinity unmediated by feminism is toxic, dangerous, oppressive or simply and dismissively ‘outmoded.’ If I lose sleep tonight, it will because I have a pulled rib muscle, or because my car is in the shop. Sticks and stones…

Because you seem to be someone with an interest in sociology, my point here is to draw attention to the way you use your own language to enforce your own brand of normativity. Did you, perhaps only half-consciously, go out of your way to attempt to emasculate me to bring those who might be sympathetic to my views (or similar views) into conformity–to show that shame and ostracism and emasculation will accompany non-conformity?

It’s a tactic, as I’m sure you know, that men have employed throughout history to influence the behavior of others. I’m saying this because you and several of your commenters rattled off a litany of what I recognize to be “stock” insults and “boilerplate” arguments frequently used not only against me, but against any male homosexual who expresses a positive (as opposed to “neutral”) view of masculinity as an aspirational “ideal” (rather than simply as an inborn essence of no particular value, or as one of many social masks of no particular value).

If you read through the online commentary and press commentary about me and my book, very predictable patterns emerge–especially from people who are expressing knee-jerk reactions based on their impressions of what they think the book must certainly be about. These patterns, I think, actually tend to validate the idea–contained in that very book–that gays socialize each other to become more effeminate by validating/celebrating effeminate behaviors and treating masculine behaviors with suspicion (socially and publicly, even if the same behaviors are validated in the sexual realm). The stock argument is that any publicly expressed interest in masculinity must belie an extremely insecure (whatever that conveniently vague and malleable insult means) individual who is lashing out at others to make himself look better by comparison–which is overly simplistic at best, especially if you assume that the individual is aware, as most adult men are, that proclaiming one’s own masculinity brings it into immediate question.

I am OK with normative behaviors and aspirational ideals that not everyone can meet. I am OK with shaming people in an attempt to influence their behavior. All people are not actually created equal, but normative behavioral ideals encourage certain behaviors for certain reasons. You can tweak the ideal and question the reasons (and question the questions) but my opinion is that rejecting normative behavior and social coercion altogether is dumb, dangerously naive and out of sync with human nature.

From what I gather, though, you seem to be against social coercion through the traditional means of establishing clear cut aspirational ideals and shaming those who do not meet those ideals.

If this is the case (though I suspect you would qualify that statement), how would you characterize and justify your comments about me in “A Tip for the Butch Obsessed?”

Though it is a typical charge, I have never, anywhere or at any time, seriously represented myself as the exemplar of all things triumphantly manly. Gays love to build me into a straw superman and then burn me down by pointing out how terrifically, almost impossibly effeminate I am. No one who knows me would characterize me that way, including a fair number of traditionally masculine straight men. When gay males portray me that way–it is generally a reaction to an idea of me, their scripted response to that idea, and a projection of that response on to me, with an emphasis on any details about me or my presentation that seem to validate it (but would not necessarily do so if presented out of the context of me being a homosexual advocate of traditional masculinity).

An example: what you wrote was not so very different from something written about me before any of my current photos were available–and before the book was even published, before it had its final title or real concept down, when it had a more “fun” cover mock up. Same patterns.

My response hasn’t changed much, either, apparently.

There’s an interesting anonymous quote in the comments that is of interest here–right before the creepy spam comments start.

Repeated exposure to a particular paradigm desentisizes and devalues the rest. Gay Radicals do not neccesarily lead for a ‘progressive’, because any Archaeologist and student of the Social Sciences will tell you that ‘progress’ is defined by the group ‘doing’ the defining.

Appropriate.

There are lots of fags who don’t suck cock

July 22nd, 2008

An exchange from today:

“That guy is such a fag. No offense, Jack.”

“None taken. Actually, I like to see the word used that way.”

“Huh?”

“For straight guys who are pussies. I wrote an essay about it a while back. I think fag should be a universal put-down for effeminate or bitchy males. Straight guys should call straight guys fags.”

“We’ve already got that covered.”

“Good. Because there are lots of fags who don’t suck cock.”

“I like that. There are lots of fags who don’t suck cock. You should write that down.”

I just did.

Androphilia on Facebook

July 19th, 2008

I just figured out that you can create public figure and product pages on Facebook, so I created a barebones page that you can become a “fan” of.

Right now I am my own “nuba one fan” which seems appropriate.

I also created a “public figure” profile for myself, which might be nice, so I can separate my real life pals from people who simply enjoy or follow my work. But I haven’t launched that one yet.

I like what Facebook is doing with this. It also kind of feels just maybe 2% more grown up than MySpace. But only 2%.

DISHONOR?: Turkey’s First Gay-Related Honor Killing?

July 19th, 2008

In Androphilia, I wrote:

It seems that if gay advocates today were truly concerned about real oppression, they’d be concentrating their efforts on political asylum programs for homos in Muslim countries, where accused homosexuals are still routinely executed or forced, foolishly, to submit to testosterone injections.**

I was reminded of that quote when I came across this article.
Was Ahmet Yildiz the victim of Turkey’s first gay honour killing?

Interesting, although the article itself is more conjecture than anything. And it reminds us, thoughtfully, that “A government survey earlier this year estimated that one person every week dies in Istanbul as a result of honour killings. It put the nationwide death toll at 220 in 2007. In the majority of cases, the victims are women, but Mr Yildiz’s friends suspect he may be the first recorded victim of a homosexual honour killing.” So even if it was in fact a traditional honor killing, it doesn’t exactly establish a trend or even a consistent “problem.” People get killed for all kinds of dumb reasons every day. Even in the US. And this isn’t government “oppression” proper.

(Honor killings are, in a nutshell, when your family is so ashamed of you that they kill you.  Or they kill someone else to keep other people from wronging/insulting them.)

This is all related to the dark side of the idea of honor. Honor as a reputation for strength that, frankly, might have been offended by the not altogether unattractive Ahmet posing in front of a rainbow wall/flag, or being described as “Turkey’s gay poster boy”.

Which does not mean that we should throw out the cliche baby with the cliche bathwater and say honor is inherently a bad thing. I would think that in a civilized world we could have honor and yet somehow manage to make it illegal to kill our fellow citizens and family members simply because we are ashamed to be associated with them.

The gay answer is “down with traditional ideals of honor and masculinity!” Or to take the more cunning feminist re-education approach: “let’s teach them that masculinity is about hugs and non-violence and emotional availability. Let’s teach them how to act just like women, but humor them by calling it masculinity.”

I also found a related article in Spiegel Online:

Does Germany Have a Problem With Gay Hate Crime?

It is interesting and relevant in that it relates a rise in crime against homosexuals (hate crime is a term best used by liberals) to the overwhelming rise in the German-Turkish and German-Russian population. Several of my readers will nod for various reasons.

But what also interests me is the connection here–which Germans are of course very quick to shout down for obvious reasons–to various right wing groups that share some traditional masculine values and find effeminacy and homosexuality to be abhorrent. The rapper profiled has a group called “Bushido.”

On a personal level, anyone who knows me knows that I am progressively shifting more to the right, and the masculine idealism I advocate is closely related to, among other things, well, bushido. The problem of squaring some extreme far-right ideas with social tolerance for homosexuality is an interesting one. It is easy to do as an individual. Mishima obviously managed it and it doesn’t keep me up at night. The Spartans obviously made it work, as did the samurai. But to square it in writing–from a philosophical perspective–this is trickier. I have some ideas and I plan one day to work all of this out in an essay for my third book. In a society that discourages effeminacy in men and actively promotes strength, heroism and growth rate reproduction, where does the homosexual fit in? What is his role? This is interesting.

** The fact that I wrote this in 2006, and it was published in 2007, should make this 2008 Tribe commenter feel really dumb.

“Butch Obsessed.”

July 19th, 2008

This is kind of funny, because I just had a conversation with someone the other day about the word “butch.” No man I’ve ever met would self-identify as “butch.” It’s a gay word with a negative connotation to it–implying a pose, because the majority of truly self loathing fags believe that only straight men can be authentically masculine. (As USmale noted recently, “your gay identity can be questioned for being too masculine, but not for being too effeminate.”) It is more traditionally a put down for awkwardly masculine women, specifically lesbians. Gays call each other girls, so it is easy to see how they would get confused.

If you’re interested in reading a familiar string of gay cliches, bromides, gossip and typical ad hominem arguments based on…author headshots…here ya go, fellas.

Aside:

And who is telling fags that variations of “Methinks Thou Dost Protest Too Much” makes them sound insightful and witty? Who is validating that behavior? It’s bad pop-psychology mixed with a cheesy high school Shakespeare reference. Are you kidding me? I couldn’t say anything to make gays look as lame as they make themselves look without my assistance.

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DISHONOR: Men in “Dancing” Style Aerobics Classes

July 17th, 2008

You know why.

Don’t play devil’s advocate just to be PC. You know you’re laughing at them, too.

Surely there are more honorable ways to get some cardio. Or check out chicks.

Shamelessness is overvalued.

DISHONOR: Fashion is not progressive.

July 15th, 2008

The other day I did an interview with a very decent fella for an upcoming documentary (not at liberty to discuss details at this time). We talked about a lot of things on camera, but the more spirited discussions actually took place off camera afterwards, when we went out for a few drinks. We started out in a pub (my choice) but (almost on a dare) we ended up doing a short tour of downtown Portland gay bars. They redecorate every so often, but they are just as inane (even depressing) as I remember them. Which brings me to a point.

Over the evening we had some interesting exchanges about various things, but we also discussed and debated a lot of cliche gay ideas and sacred cows that continue to bore me to tears.

One pattern I see in any discussion about masculinity, especially with women or homosexual males, is an over-emphasis on pointing out changes in male grooming and fashion as prime evidence that masculinity is this extremely fluid, nearly meaningless concept.

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Something to think about…

July 15th, 2008

“The Fall of France”

President Jacques Chirac threw out part of a youth labor law that triggered massive protests and strikes, bowing to intense pressure from students and unions. The unemployment rate for youths under 26 is a staggering 22 percent nationwide, but soars to nearly 50 percent in some of those troubled areas with many Muslim immigrants. French Jews are leaving the country in ever-growing numbers, fleeing a wave of anti-Semitism. Nidra Poller, American ex-pat writer and translator in Paris, has written some appalling stories about aggressive anti-Semitism, such as the murder and brutal torture of French Jew Ilan Halimi early in 2006.

Muslim blogs are calling for violence against the Jews, the whites and the well-to-do. They say, “We must burn France, as Hamas will burn Israel.” The growth of the Islamic population is explosive. According to some, one out of three babies born in France is now a Muslim. Around 70% of French prisoners are Muslims. Hundreds of Muslim ghettos are already de facto following sharia, not French law. Some have pointed out that the French military are not always squeamish, but there are estimates that 15% of the armed forces are already made up of Muslims, and rising. How effective can the army then be in upholding the French republic? At the same time, opinion polls show that the French are now officially the most anti-capitalist nation on earth. France has chosen Socialism and Islam. It will get both, and sink into a quagmire of its own making.

Wish it had more source links.

h/t Subversion

Finally

July 14th, 2008

I feel pandered to, and it is surprisingly comforting and ego-affirming. I want to believe. I have…hope.


‘No Values Voters’ Looking To Support Most Evil Candidate

Actually, I really do have values.  They just tend to hurt people’s feelings. And we just can’t have hurt feelings.

h/t Nick Pell

An old essay…

July 13th, 2008

A reader recently requested that I re-post this essay, which is an oldie but a goodie that never made through the last site upgrade.

Faghag = Psychic Vampire

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